Ms. Katie Houle screaming and out of control on the phone, threatening to kill herself, and cut herself.

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From: mary rose lenore eng <maryeng1@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: katie houle death threats april 15. 2017
To: "King-Dunbar, Janice L" <janice.l.king-dunbar@hud.gov>

I spoke to Ms. Houle tonight for an hour and a half. She was screaming and out of control on the phone, threatening to kill herself, and cut herself.

She says she has felt suicidal every day sinceher dad's death (March 7th i think).

I suggested she seek professional help, call Multnomah Crisis line or Call to Safety (formerly Portland Women's Crisis line).

I told her that her threats to kill herself or cut her wrists put me in a difficult situation, and that as a Mandatory Reporter i felt obligated to take these threats seriously.

She told me i'm not a Mandatory Reporter.

I also made suggestions she use Yoga, chocolate, flowers, go to the History Museum, or listen to music.

When she cursed at me and used foul language to me, i told her it makes me uncomfortable.

She would not confirm the death threats on Saturday, but did confirm suicidal mental health crisis.

She sounded more rational after the long talk. I was hoping she'd calm down.

I also told her her verbal style in interpret as verbally abusive, i asked her to stop shouting, told her to whisper, and asked her to not use curse words at me or an epithetical language.

she called me the b-word, and kept using the term sh*t over and again in many combinations, accusing me of thinking she's sh*t.

contextually we have known each other from internet research in police accountability but we have never had a telephone rapport.

I do not believe that i have the education necessary to be of full assistance and i am not certain her exact residence.

I do know she is at home, and not at the person's house who has complained to me about the death threats.

i have worked as a caregiver, and trained as a paralegal, but i do not feel that i am suited for her needs.

I find it especially draining, and hope she can find help.

i hope i do not become further harassed. i assume it may have been wrong to answer the phone.

her contact at this point i perceive as unwanted and dangerous to my health.

she is sending me unwanted texts.

David Kif davis's text from his line 503 ### ####  "Katie is threatening to kill me again. this time she is threatening to falsify charges with the police too...i'm going to break this off . . .pretty much done with this nightmare bullshit"

april 15, 2017 1:49 pm

and at 1:52pm

"now she wants to be her emotional support system and forgiving after her abuse . . . using her dad's dying and mom as ammunition and stuff... its a fucking nightmare"

i will send her a formal letter requesting she stop all contact with me.

david has acknowledged using me as a therapist to deal with her abuse

i knew when i answered the phone tonight, she wanted to migrate the verbal abuse to me.

i don't care if she or david are mad at me, because i want her to get the help she needs, and am concerned at the lack of discretion and true fear induced by the suicide and homicide threats.